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LeJaguar 234787 26 tractors in hole either
tractors in hole
I found this picture in net.What a hell could happend??
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Hi Claas68
I got this idea of a sunken ship. But I can’t clearly see if
it is really tractors or models. But if it is really
tractors I cant explain it otherwise that a sunken ship.
Where did you find that picture?

Take care… Shrek
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These are models of course, none of the wheels are damaged,
if this were real tractors at least some of the wheels
should be collapsed.

Regards
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Of course! These are a models, I was so stupid. Thanks guys.
Take care Claas68
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Hi Guys.
Jos you got a point with the wheels but take a look on the
tractors. They are some pretty detailed models. If it is
models it is quite a shame actually.
Claas68 where did you find this picture?
Maybe there could be some more information on that place…

Keep on posting. Shrek.
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Well... looking on the top-left of the picture we can see
something that looks like a scale.
and as it was said previously, these tractors are very
detailed, maybe too much to be toys?
I think this picture is taken from a cargo boat leading
these tractors to a scrapyard. What do you think?
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Yes this is a picture from the ship that sunk in the Channel
between France and England. I cannot remember the name but
the boat was full of German John Deere tractors and Volvo
cars, heading for America.

The boat sunk last year due to a collison with an oil
tanker. I really cant remember the name of the ship :-(
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wasn't the name of the ship the Tricolore ?
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I checked. 'Tricolor' carrying loads of Volvos, Saabs and
BMW's. There is nothing about tractors
(http://www.20six.co.uk/ClosetGenius/archive/2003/08/06/1gvz
aon7owcr.htm ). I still belive this pic is really good
fake. And tractors/models aren't wet, this is normal for
plastic to looks like wet(it's shine)
(Oo..hh. My english is terrible :-\ )
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Ik denk dat jij eens naar de datum onderaan de foto moet
kijken rensje! En dan nog wat. Dat schip waar jij het over
hebt is dus inderdaad de tricolor en was dus niet onderweg
naar de vs maar naar southampton, en ze hadden dus enkel
maar JD's aan boor volgens jou maar dan moet je me toch eens
vertellen waar dat dan die mf's en die ford's vandaan komen!
Hebben ze die er later in gegooid ofzo? En de tricolor had
verschillden verdiepingen in het schip en niet 1 groot ruim
dus alles wat er in stond lag niet door mekaar heen maar was
over het algemeen tegen mekaar aangeglden en samen geperst.
:-P
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Mathijs- :-P .
I can't speak german.
But I think you say there was JD's and MF's under the deck
in 1 'groot' of 'Tricolor' yes?

PS: I hope you speak english :-D .
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The only language can is dutch and al little englisch. But
wat i said is that i dont agree with rense. I belive this is
another ship. On the picture is a dat (25-4-93 i believe)
and the sip where renze stalking about has shunk in 2002.
The other thing is said is that there were also ords and
mf's on the sip and renze is only talking about jd's, and in
the newspaper ik have only see pictures f jd's. i hope jou
can read it because my englishe is verry bat.:-[
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Thanks Mathijs. Your english is good enough. Now I
understand. Sorry for that 'german' it just I can't see a
difference between these two languages (maybe I can hear but
not see).
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How it's possible that a guy like you dont speak or write
better english than i can. You have had a higher education
then i have.
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I'm not sure what to think. Some of those tractors really
do look damaged as they should. Mind you there are some
older looking tractors(who can really tell?) and I don't
think those would be shipped over a long with a whole bunch
of brand new JDs. But on the other hand, it looks to be a
ladder on the side of the container. It is about the size
it should be and looks the same as on other ships(if this
really is a ship). A higher resolution image would be able
to solve this but I think that is wishful thinking.
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Johan Straver!! Are you asking me or Mathijs Groeneveld?
;-)
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My comment was to litle Mathijsje :-P
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To be clear:

Above picture only contains models. Look at the front axles
and wheels; definitely 1:32 scales. Only the broken hood of
that one JD looks different, probably that's a high detailed
scale or something.

Regards.
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padjakkers,

I don't agree wih you, if you look at the detials, you can
see that there is a stair at one of the side of the 'hole'
and the details of the tractors are to exact so it cant be
models, and one of the tractor has lost one of the
teihers (?) and the rim is so precisely that it cant be a
model.

Kallum an doen
Patrick
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Funny, if these were just toys, why would the front wheels
steer, and not the whole front axle like most toys
(Britains, Siku) do ???

Yes the JD models on teh right look like old SGII cabbed
models... Well if the picture is really from 1992, i suppose
they still built that cab in those days...

Yes the Tricolor sunk in 2002... But more boats sank during
the years... When did the "Herald of free enterprise" sink
in the Channel ? I believe that was in the 80's wasnt it ??
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that are real tractors. at the top of the picture you can
see a ladder(trap, correct me if i'm wrong, dutch guys;-))
and if you look to the bottom of some tractors, you see
details you don't see at models.
and you can see also some damaged tires.
so those are real, but what happened, i don't know:-D
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ik denk dat het modellen zijn als je goed naar de jd links
vanonder kijkt zie je op de onderkant 2 lange "latten"
steken naar de vooras toe. allé dat denk ik
933
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Funny... I thought it was I who mentioned the ladder, etc...
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These are just all 1:16 ERTL models!
If you look to the rims it's very clear, also one Deere has
a total tire of, if it where real tractor, that wouldn't be
possible!
The high detail, is because it are high detailed scale
models of ERTL!

Greetz
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I think that these are models as the tires are shining, this
wouldnt be so on real rubber. Also, the ford in the middle
has a a tight turning angle and i dont think this would be
possible on a real tractor because of the steering joints
and castor angles.

please give your opinion on my opinions!

Rich
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