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Richard H 271720 307 6920s either
6920s
A 6920s with Quicke Q75 loader seen at local dealers open
day. more pictures in 8000 series and 5000 series.
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Another 6920s with a sprayer attached.
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A 6620 and 6420.
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The PowerQuad transmission found in the 6020 series tractors
usually. This newer version has better egronomics than the
earlier versions.
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The hand throttle seems to have almost reverted to the type
used in the first 6000 series back in 1992 or thereabouts.
I like the new angle of the range lever but if that is well
positioned then the linkage pod is wrong and the spools and
PTO button must be quite inconvenient in comparison.
Time for a rethink on this cab I think :-\ It's basic design
is now around 14 years old and could do with a revamp in so
many areas, don't you think?
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that thing about the cabine, they said that from the
beginning of the 6000 series, if they would remove the
handbreak(left of the chair) there would be much more space
for a cooling box or something like that, i didn't ever used
that thing:-\
i work with a JD 6400 with front end loader but i only use
it at home, so i don't need more space for food and
drinks:-P
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why mess whith a good thing?
if you only have to develop an cab and search an engine,
transmission an front axle from different developpers, you
would have plenty of time for developing a cab.
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"why mess whith a good thing?
if you only have to develop an cab and search an engine,
transmission an front axle from different developpers, you
would have plenty of time for developing a cab."

Because there is always room for improvement and anyone who
stands still for long is overtaken and eaten alive. There
are sharks out there and they are hungry. The interface
between the driver and his machine is the cab. The Deere cab
is now very dated, ergonomically poor and has a training
seat that is poorly positioned for driver entry among other
problems. I know that it will be used again for the 6*30
series, albeit with some cosmetic changes, but after that it
needs a major update, no doubt about it.
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about the instructers seat: it's bullshit that it's in the
way when you get out/in the tractor, we have 2 tractors from
that series(6400 and 6110) and never had problems with it.
I'm about 1,90m tall and only have a small problem with my
knees(but it's more a seat for children)
about the ergonomics, take commandarm, i've never worked
with it but i think it'll work perfect. BTW, i don't have
any problems with the ergonomics
there is one thing that is SO stupid, the gears for the PTO
are like shit to change:-\
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"about the instructers seat: it's bullshit that it's in the
way when you get out/in the tractor, we have 2 tractors from
that series(6400 and 6110) and never had problems with it.
I'm about 1,90m tall and only have a small problem with my
knees(but it's more a seat for children)"

That is part of the problem. It is only good for children
but over here it is not legal to carry children. It is only
in the way when it is folded down for use. Not only that but
many drivers have to fold the steering wheel out of the way
to get in and out. Many rivals have cabs without this
compromise. That is not to say that any cab is perfect as
there is always room for improvement.




"about the ergonomics, take commandarm, i've never worked
with it but i think it'll work perfect. BTW, i don't have
any problems with the ergonomics"

I've never used commandarm either but I think it is a very
good idea and probably works well and is a significant
ergonomic improvement. I would certainly consider it for my
next tractor.



"there is one thing that is SO stupid, the gears for the PTO
are like shit to change"

I drive Deere, MF and NH and the change on all these is just
as bad as each other. I have one MF with the Fendt back end
[7490] which has buttons for changing the three speeds and
it is brilliant. Indeed the whole cab is superb from the
drivers point of view and apart from the linkage wheel
position it is a superior place to be. Other aspects like
the way the hood opens and the black chassis paint quality
do not match Deere.
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well, then i've made a small mistake, here you can take a
child in the cab(if you take 3, they won't arrest you
either)
i like the cab, altough i'd like we had airco(don't know if
thats the right word in english)

about the pto gears, i'm glad we don't change it so much,
but the 540E is vey hard to "get it in to"(is that good
english?)
but with buttons i think it would work a lot better;-)
BTW, what tractor do you own?
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We have a 6320 and i agree with whats been said about the
handbrake, I've never used it. Also, storage is an issue, in
the Claas cabs there is a very useful plastic moulded 'cubby
hole' and manual holder on the left hand side, The Deere's
equivalent is the field office but this is an optional extra
whereas the Claas' is standard.

i feel that all the major funtions are well laid out on the
right hand side. The only gripe is the PowrQuad transmission
which too needs updating to more than 4 powershift gears to
keep up with the competition. Range shifting can be jerky,
say from D to E at lower revs, but at higher revs
(1900-2100) it is quite smooth. Sometimes i can shift easier
on an older Deere like a 40 series! Also the Powershift
gears can be jerky too.

I find the Left Hand Reverser on the Deere to be quite
snappy at certain revs, whereas again, the Claas' can be
adjusted from 1-10 for smoothness on certain jobs.

Moving away from the cab, the Deere's TLS is permenant
whereas again, the Claas' can be switched off and moved up
and down infinitly.Also it is independant link suspension
not like the Deeres Beam suspension. The Deere's TLS is now
out of date and needs to be the ILS on all models not just
the bigger ones.


Well ive had a rant! please respond to my issues if u feel!
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Here's our 6320 dashboard, I prefer the magnethic revers
switch like in the 6010 series.
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"well, then i've made a small mistake, here you can take a
child in the cab(if you take 3, they won't arrest you
either)"

Over in parts of the UK the police will pull a tractor over
just for being on the road. There is almost a vendetta
against tractors on the road while health and safety
inspectors will arrest for carrying children.


"i like the cab, altough i'd like we had airco(don't know if
thats the right word in english)"

Your English is very good.

"about the pto gears, i'm glad we don't change it so much,
but the 540E is vey hard to "get it in to"(is that good
english?)"

Your English really is very good. I am not English and do
not speak English every day but there are many English
speakers around here now and telivision is mostly, but not
all, English.



"but with buttons i think it would work a lot better
BTW, what tractor do you own?"

I currently own an MF 165 from 1972 [I was 14 when the
tractor was delivered and I remember it well].
Also a New Holland 8360 built in 1997 with a loader.
A 2004 Massey Ferguson 7490 with the Fendt Vario
transmission which shares the loader with the 8360.
Also a John Deere 2140 from 1984 which has nearly 9000
hours.
Also a Same Titan 160 powershift bought in 1993.
Over the years I have also owned MF 595 :-(
MF 590
MF 35 both 4 and 3 cylinder
MF 65
Another round axle 165
MF135 x2
Ford 5000
Ford 7610
Ford 7810
John Deere 3050
John Deere 6200
Same Tiger Six
Same Laser 130
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i don't have any experience with the 6020 series:-(
but it think a button like the case cvx for forward reverse
would be great, and i think if the make it that you can
shift up and shift down with one button(like the powershift
buttons on the powrquad plus and autoquad)it wouldn't be out
of date anymore, but if they make the autopowr a bit less
expensive, that would help to
i've been in a 7020 cab and i think that would be a good
idea for 6030 series, and then the front suspension(ILS)
from the 8020/8030 series, that would make an improvement
But i wouln't be surprised if they jusst kept this
transmission for the next series:-\
make it a turn-around, 4 gears and 6x powershifting
and afcourse change the shifting for the PTO
any idea when the 6030 series come?
the 6000 has been there for about 6 or years('91 or'92-'98)
the 6010 till 2001 or'02, so the 6020's has been here for
about 4-5 years, time for new ones;-)
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Heres the Transmisson in our 6320, as you can tell its one
of the ealier versions with out all the nice sliding pastic
and raised powershift gear rocker switch. The Left Hand
Reverser is the round one with the black metal guard, not
the moulded platic one with plastic brown guard.

Anyone else find the hand throttle above an annoyence? Does
anyone elses have 'play' in it? set it at, say, 1000 revs,
use the foot throttle past 1000 revs and magically the
engine is set at a higher speed once your foot is off the
throttle. any one else have this 'problem' or should I get
it seen to? :-\
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how many hours does it have?

our 6400 does have a kind of "problem" like that but only if
you go backwards, if you go forwards it turns nice and
smooth, i don't have any problems with it because i never
come on grass(then you slip the grass away)

if you are at a dealers you could just ask advice of someone
who works there;-)

good luck with it
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It has 3400 or so hours on the clock. most of those with its
previous owner doing fencing.
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as i said, i think just ask isn't a bad idea, and i think it
ruins your grass, like we have with our 6400
our 6110 has about 3200 hours and it turns just as smooth as
when it was new, maybe it's a software problem, but i'm not
a mechanic

we come kinda much at the dealers because the mower and the
feeder for the cows and a few more things come from them
also, so if we have a small problem with the tractor, we can
just ask, but our dealer it's just something more then a
mile away;-)

good luck with it
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