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double chop forage harvester
A farmer in my neighbourhood has bought a 'new' piece of
machinery.This double chop forage harvester. It looks to be
in a fair condition. I guess he doesn't have to mow his
grass before picking it up?(I have not seen this machine at
work as I was at school.)Any idea how much pto hp is needed
for this machine?
My father told me that this kind of machinery was common
with contractors in pre-SPFH times in our region (especially
the taarup-version). Are they still used a lot? Do they
still build them?
Answers welcome!

machine was found sitting in the field behind my house,
today oct 10 2006

voor de mensen uit het klein-brabantse, deze machine is een
'nieuwe' aanwinst van de fieldqueen-man.
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left side
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usually they have been used for getting green gras for the
cows every day.
not well suitet for silage,cause to much moisture.
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you can clearly see what position the machine is mostly used
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someone (previous or current owner) added an 'electric
connector' (don't know the correct english word) so you can
hook your trailer behind de harvester when going on the
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is da hakselaarke van nen loonwerker geweest?
Of is die sticker op de laatste foto van de dealer?
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deliverd work
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I wasn't the only one who was interested in this machine.
People even came flying in to have a better view :-P
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@jdeere : thanks for the answers. Do you know what how much
hp is needed? And how about capacity?

@maarten : I don't know if it is ex-contractor , but I'll
take a better picture of the sticker tomorrow!!!!
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This is a Kidd Double Chop. It has a number of curved flails
on the main rotor which feed into an auger running behind
which, in turn, feeds into a small chopper/blower.

It is capable of handling large crops and will cut these
direct, leaving a clean stubble. It can also be used to wilt
if the door over the auger is left open. If it is intended
to lift the flail-mowed grass with the same machine then a
high stubble is preferred the first mowing.

The hp and output limit is with a heavy crop and around
80PTO hp. The limit is due to the size of hole available
into the small chopper which is fed by the auger. At its
limit the auger is forced to push grass into a hole through
which it will not go.
At the end of its useful life the lugs holding the main
flails fracture off the main rotor and the flail ends up in
the chopper.

I started using one of these with a MF165 then a Ford5000
which was no more powerful but had an extra gear where it
was useful. Ended up using my last machine with a 590 I
think, maybe it even had a turbo by then.
Their use pretty well died out in the early 1980's.

It was built by Kidd, later Taruup/Kidd. Main rival was
probably the New Holland double chop.
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These things will make your tractor overheat when cutting
heavy crops in hot weather:-( Its ok for short grass or a
very big tractor
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toch een mooi machientje,ik merk wel dat meer en meer boeren
zo een getrokken hakselaarke kopen,hier in de streek altans.
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Thanks for all the answers!!!

I think this farmer uses it daily to feed his cows fresh
mown grass. Before he had this machine I saw him regularly
mow and pick up grass with an old claas wagon. Maybe the
claas went dead and therefore he bought this machine? I only
know that his cows are never out in the field. All of his
fields are at relative far distance, I think that's the
reason why he feeds them daily fresh mown grass.
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In Finland we have lots of those kind choppers, but most of
them are side-mounted versions as in this link:
(text says: it needs 70hp and working width is 170cm)

They use those machines here also daily to get fresh grass
to animals and leaves the machine to the field wait to next
Side mounted choppers are handy, because you don´t have to
need remove trailer when leave the chopper to the field,
because you have to only remove PTO-axle, and remote-cables
and open the lock and drive a way.

Here is few photos i have poste earlier to Farmphoto, those
are very typical combinations in Finland!
I can post more also!
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In the uk it is called "Zero-grazing" You take the grass
to the cows and keep them inside all the time:-\ There is
a farm near me That has 1000 cows That are inside all the
time, they only go outside for calving, ect... He makes
silage on most of his fields in the summer (he does not
zero-graze) There is also a farm with 600 jerseys They
use a "new zealand" system and keep them outside all year
on the fields and make no silage! 2 very different ways of
dairy farming 2 miles from each other!!
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