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NH ts 130 on tracks
new-holland ts 130 on soucy tracks
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2WD
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jdeere do you knwo the 8130 2wd?

what do you think of that?

I think it sucks, It's a bit weard for such a strong tractor to have 2wd
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Nald, you are dumb, cuz you don't know nothing about farming in America!!!

It does NOT suck, why do you think there are so many 2WD tractors in Northern America? Because back in the day the tractors were build for that, all the weight went to the rear wheels, front end was always made light.

Think and do some research before you post your stupid comments!

Rony
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I'm not dumb, I asked jdeere opinion, so I hasn't made a conclusion jet.

and with sucks I mean it looks stoopid.

I have seen some strong american 2wd tractors, but that were tractors from the 70/80's

and the other big tractors out of america were 4wd, and that were those knick-lenkage tractors (grote bakbeesten)

and I think it's a bit old fashioned for nowadays.more in former days the 4wd traditionall tractors weren't often reliable. because they hadn't a good developed front axle.

and it's true that I know hardly anything about farming in america, so I want to learn things about that. So that is everything except stupid, that's why I asked his opinion.
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Than just ask, and don't say that you think it "sucks". Cuz it does NOT suck, otherwise all the tractors would have been MFWD or 4WD(kniktrekker in het engels), and 2WD wouldn't be developed than.
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how's thast you must start developping with something, they started with steam, and now they use diesel, so they have dunped that other idea to, so why not 2wd, but I think it's uselles for such a big tractor.

now you may explain to me why it isn't it useless
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The words are getting better finally, from "suck" to "useless". Now we're talking about something.

To answer your question:
It sure isn't useless, because back in the time MFWD was more useless than 2WD, cuz all the weight of the tractors was at the rear end, that's how they were build. So why spend more money on buying a MFWD if you can get 2WD a lot cheaper and it would do the same job?

It's just what the customer prefers, but it is NOT useless, get off of that point please.

Rony
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O ya, and something else, all wheel drive wasn't developed "after" 2wd, if that is what you mean.

"2wd->mfwd" is not the same as "steam->diesel"
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Ow nee ik lach de billen uit m'n string. Rony de bony komt ook even stoer doen zeker? Laat me niet lachen man.

Het 10 jarig zusje van een vriend van mij uit Engeland zegt Cuz i luv ya!
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ok I know now thanks :-D

but why isn't than the 8530 2wd if that is such a succesfull formula?
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Ik doe niet stoer, ik leg hem alleen uit waarom 2wd niet onbruikbaar is.

You can get the 8130 with 2WD Nald.
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One of the problems that shows up now that 4wd tractors are common place is that farmers can get onto their paddocks / fields earlier after wet weather, than was previously possible with 2wd tractors.

So now you see more soil compaction & structural damage from travelling on soil that is too wet, than was evident in the past, as the 2wd tractors would just get stuck (bogged) if the soil was too wet.

This is also evident with things like potato & beet harvesting, especially in wet years; trying to get paddocks / fields back into another crop following a wet harvest can be a nightmare; using things like power harrows to bash the soil into a seedbed might be a short term fix but there will still be soil structural damage to deal with (& all of it's associated problems) later on down the track, in years to come.

So 2wd had their place & probably still do to a certain extent, in certain cirumstances :-)
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The 2wd looks nice
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true
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A couple of weeks ago I was in Missouri and saw a Case MX200 in 2WD!! I never even knew that these were build. I did know that there was a 2wd MX180 but not the 200. I saw this one on the research farm from Land O' Lakes

FH
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I know the 8130, but why not the 8530?
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I'm not a salesperson of john deere, so ask them;-) but i think just because not many farmers buy new tractors with 2wd, and the new tractors are especially made for all wheel drive. if someone buys a 2wd, its likely to have a loader also, but its just rare in these days.
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hehe that's the point, this waht I mean, it's rear to have 2wd for such a strong tractor.
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1st of all,thats why i put them in,cause you dont see them a lot!
and for haying,its the most handy thing you can get and its nice to have some extra HP(if you have to drive two small squer balers at the time not even enough from that NH.
about the JD`s,they know what will sell and what not,so they only have the 8130 in 2WD avalibel for certan row crop work.defently makes no sense on the bigger ones in nord America.
diff.story in europe again with more wet cond.
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by the way,i had a 2WD 8130 JD in febuary in FP.
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