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Kuhn Discover XM Discs
Kuhn Discover XM Discs, Cressy, Tasmania, February 2007.
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Another from the other side.
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And another. The crumbler does a good job, levelling behind the discs (so the owner tells me)
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Parked up, in the transport position (in another paddock)
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Another.
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The final one.

A storm is brewing off in the distance.
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I always wonder how hard is for you to get european machinery down there ? It is some long way to you , who is paying all the shiping costs ?
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Seems to be more European gear here Ratarko than American stuff. Kuhn power harrows & hoes have been sold here since the 1980's.

I guess the importers bring them into the country, then they go out to the individual dealers, across the country.
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Ok , but what i want to know is : are you paying more money for it then european people ?
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Sometimes it looks the same with combines, you can find both european and american combines on pictures from Australia, for example both Hew Holland TF's and TR's.
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We probably are paying more, I guess they factor it in to their prices (farmers just have to accept the prices if they want the machines, I suppose)
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Well , I guess you pay more too .
If i want to order machine from Germany i have to pay 1500 € more and it is 1100 km from my home . I do not even know how far are you from Germany but i think it is a long way and at least 2-3 times loading and unloading take place .
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I guess the difference is Ratarko that when they bring them to Australia, they might bring (for example) 50 or 100 machines, so shipping would work out cheaper.
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Ups :-[ , yes , I did not use to think big , of course they bring many of them at once .
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It would be the same with most farm machinery out here Ratarko (tractors, combines, etc).

There might be the odd specialist machine that needs to be imported on it's own (for example a pea viner or self propelled potato harvester) but generally they would be imported in reasonably large numbers, thus keeping the freight costs down. :-)
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TC, to ship a big 40 footer container isnt that expensive at all. I thought it was only 500 Euro ?? to ship a container from the USA to Rotterdam sea port... Most machinery is sold in crates and the partly assembled units are assembled by the dealer. If they stuff a 40 footer with crates, many machines go into one container. There is no additional cost of loading or assembling, because even with local machinery, it is usually the dealer that assembles the wings and rollers to the machine.
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Yes Renze, I guess the cost varies around the world. From what Ratarko was saying, there must not be alot of dealers in Croatia, so individual farmers must have to import the machines themeselves, which gets very costly.
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A couple of years ago there was a story around here that it was cheaper to buy a CaseIH 2388 combine in Europe and ship it here in Ontario, Canada then to buy it here at a local dealer. The craziest thing is that this machine is build in the US! So it must have been cheaper to move it oversees twice then just to truck it here! (I think there were also some markup differences)

FH
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Franke,

It could be possible CaseIH tried to buy a market in Europe.
They the machines with a loss to be cheaper than Claas and get so clients that in former bought a Claas now buy a CaseIH for the pricedifference.
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Renze mentioned €500 for a 40' container from Europe to USA, you are right, but upto that comes handling in Europe and USA so you have to count another €500 + fee for distance. But, seefreight is cheap, so maybe machinery in Aussie won't be much more expensive than in Europe or USA.

There is one more odd thing with the prices of the Case IH 2388 - there is a different rotor and some other features in Europe, and normally there are wider and more expensive tyres than in America, even if you count the duals.
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They have alot of machinery in New Zealand (new & second hand) that originates in Europe, so it must be cost effective to do this, freight & exchange rate wise.
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