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mcmanigal 488918 104 Seeding the Hillside of Doom! either
Seeding the Hillside of Doom!
Seeding on a beautiful fall morning on SRS Ranches SE of The
Dalles, Oregon. Here the Flexi-Coil 2320 Air Cart & Drill ease around
the north ridge on the "80" behind a JD 9400T as Mt Hood looks on
from the west. :-D
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A little closer look at the outfit. A liquid tank (850 gal) has been added
to the original 2320 Air Cart...also bigger spindles were added when the main axle was widened for better hillside stability. The fertilizer
application features a GPS controlled overlap reduction system.
This fall we are putting down a custom NPK blend, shooting for a
60lbs /acre total N.....the seed rate is 100lbs + / acre. ;-)
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The real test comes around on the north side of this ridge....the first
lap down next to the edge is a piece of cake....starting with lap 2
( seen here) the going gets a little tougher. ;-)
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As you can see, the cart & drill want to slide off down the hill as the
outfit gets out on the steepest portion of the hill. :-\
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Getting to be a little better going on the south side of the ridge.Operator Dave Wilson has laid this out so that he his going
"backwards" to his normal direction of travel....this allows him to
avoid a nasty pull on the north side and gives him a better angle on
the steepest part of this ridge. :-D
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Here he starts the toughest pass as Mt Hood looks on.....ease up on
the throttle a little bit....and HANG ON! :-P
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The cart & drill starting to "fall off".......the all up weight (50,000lbs)
of the 9400T & it's 425 HP keeps things from getting out of control.
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Set up pretty good on his mark here......
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Got to keep the nose of the tractor from going uphill here....looking
good so far. ;-)
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Leaning on the cab frame for a little support......:-P
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Yup, it's still back there. ;-)
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Made it! :-D Back to seeding something a little more mundane.
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Here's what it will look like next July....the tables are turned as I am in
this shot instead of behind the camera....heading out across the same
hill seen in the photo's above in a Case-IH 1670 Hillside combine. :-P
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A little closer look as my dog Kirby cuddles up to my leg as we
venture out on the steepest part of this slope....easy money in a
1670. :-D
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As usual awesome photos John!

Tony
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Back to the drill......another day, another hill. Heading around the
"right" way this time. A good look at the extended main axle on
the Air Cart. This little pitch gets your attention. ;-)
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Not quite so steep here. Another good shot of the axle extensions as
all of the 9400T's horses are awake and working in this shot. We had
some problems with spindle breakage, which we believe had more to
do with turning ( broke the left side twice; turns are mainly to that
side) than any hillside loading. The cure was to go to bigger spindles..
while he was at it, Dave decided to make the cart a little more stable
on the hills. He came to that conclusion one day after he had the upper side tire come off the ground. No problems with that now as the
cart has a nice wide stance. ;-)
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Great Photos!
Sure is different country than here in Pennsylvania :-)
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for how many years is sowen wheat in the same fields now?
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Hi John,

great pics as usual.

When you say, GPS controlled overlap reduction, you mean something like boom control on a sprayer? So the GPS unit says where to shut of the fertilizer? Where did you mount the antenna? On the tractor it wouldn't make any sense to me, because the drill is some feet further downhill.
Any problems with the hills shading out the GPS signal?
Do you plan to control the seed also?

The farm I worked for this summer was thinking about autosteer options especially for seeding. But they also had some.... um...... not so flat (Don't want to call anything "steep" while talking to you ;-) ) fields. The problem would be that the drill would just pull downhill so you would have to correct it anyway. Do you see autosteer units being used in your part of the world? Did you guys find a way to stop implements from being pulled down? I was thinking about a big disk or something like that.

TIA Martin
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John very impressive photos, very steep hills. Are 4wd tractor with triples better than track tractors to work on those hills?
regards,
Victor
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Impressive photos as always!
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Fantastic views as ever John. What's your camera?
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In echo of the above "Great photos as ALWAYS John" :-)
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MartinM wrote:
Hi John,

great pics as usual.

When you say, GPS controlled overlap reduction, you mean something like boom control on a sprayer? So the GPS unit says where to shut of the fertilizer? Where did you mount the antenna? On the tractor it wouldn't make any sense to me, because the drill is some feet further downhill.
Any problems with the hills shading out the GPS signal?
Do you plan to control the seed also?

The farm I worked for this summer was thinking about autosteer options especially for seeding. But they also had some.... um...... not so flat (Don't want to call anything "steep" while talking to you ;-) ) fields. The problem would be that the drill would just pull downhill so you would have to correct it anyway. Do you see autosteer units being used in your part of the world? Did you guys find a way to stop implements from being pulled down? I was thinking about a big disk or something like that.

TIA Martin


Hey Martin! Yup, like a boom control on a sprayer...in fact we have
the same system on our 100 foot Brandt sprayer....the antenna is
mounted in the middle of the drill as seen here. :-)
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