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kenLove 58113 246 Monstera either
Monstera
Here's another on Stu.
Ever eat monstera? Tastes great if you can get it just right
without the oxcilate crystals.
Ken
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Yeah, we used to have one outside our back steps in
Queensland. They do taste great but there definitely seems
to be a price paid for the pleasure. Maybe they have
varieties now without the nasty black bits?
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If you cook the monstera, the crystals desolve although it
does alter the taste. I'm trying to come up with a recipe
that will keep the taste and be preservable in some form.
Just cant seem to get the right ph and taste.
Ken
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Ken,
In Brazil, Monstera is called Adam's Rip (costela-de-adão)
and "guainbé" in indiginous language (Tupí-guaraní indians).

Flavio
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Hi Flavio,
Do people enjoy eating monstera in Brazil?
here even those who grew the plant many years did not know
you could eat it!
Some companies from California want to be able to bring it
to the mainland.

Take care
Ken
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Forgot to say that here it is sometimes called the Swiss
cheese plant too.
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Ken,
Forgoten nothing more? Ah, ha, ha :-D. The Farmphoto chat is
funny.
About monstera, the native monstera of Brazil is very good
to eat when riped. The riped fruit color is strong yellow
and can eat without cook.
It's so good fleshy fruit which the insects eaten fast when
riped.
Sorry, but I haven't no one picture about now.

Flavio
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Flavio,

Is it native to Brazil? i didn't know...
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Stu,
Other varieties, probably. Thirty years ago, I eaten
"banana-de-bugre" frequent, when riped, of course.
The indian name is a indicator which is a native plant.
I will try take a picture of "guainbé" (banana-de-bugre).

Flavio
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Found some more info --
Of the many aroids (members of the family of Araceae) that
are cultivated as ornamental plants, only this one has been
grown as well for its fruit. The ceriman, Monstera deliciosa
Liebm. (syn. Philodendron pertusum Kunth & Bouche), is often
called merely monstera and, inappropriately, false
breadfruit. Because of the apertures in its leaves, some
have called it Swiss-cheese plant, or hurricane plant,
suggesting that the holes and slits permit the wind to pass
through without damaging the foliage. Generally, in Mexico
and other Latin American countries it is known as pinanona,
or pina anona, but in Venezuela it is called ojul or
huracan; in Colombia, hojadillo; in Guatemala, harpon or
arpon comun. In Guadeloupe it is caroal, liane percee, or
liane franche; in Martinique, siguine couleurre; in French
Guiana, arum du pays or arum troud. In Brazil it is
catalogued by a leading nursery as ananas japonez (Japanese
pineapple).

Origin and Distribution
The ceriman is native to wet forests of southern Mexico,
Guatemala and parts of Costa Rica and Panama. It was
introduced into cultivation in England in 1752; reached
Singapore in 1877 and India in 1878. Specimens of the fruit
were exhibited by the Massachusetts Horticultural Society in
1874 and 1881. It has become familiar as an ornamental in
most of the warm countries of the world and is widely used
in warm and temperate regions as a potted plant
indoors,\especially in conservatories and
greenhouses\though it does not bloom nor fruit in
confinement. In Guatemala, it is raised in pots in patios to
prevent too rampant growth, as it is apt to become an
aggressive nuisance.

The fruits are marketed to some extent in Queensland and, in
the past, were sometimes shipped from Florida to gourmet
grocers in New York and Philadelphia.
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Ken,
Thanks for your information. You are our fruit expert.
I don't know "ananas japonez (Japanese
pineapple)" term to our native plant, but I think its right.
The southern of Brazil indians eat this riped fruit."
The "bugre" term mean indian people to us. Therefore,
"banana-de-bugre" mean "indian-banana". Our native planta
show nice yellow color when riped, than called banana.

Flavio Gassen
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All good info. Thanks!

Earlier it was mentioned that the dutch term for 'pineapple'
is 'ananas' and now I see that it is the same in Portuguese.
Turns out the latin name for pineapple is 'Ananas sativa'
(or Ananassa sativa?). I also saw somewhere that the name
comes from the native american name.
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The history as well as the way the fruit was spread
thoughout the world really is fascinating. David Fairchild's
book, The World was My garden is a great source for some of
this. The names of thse who spread fruit around the world
is like a whos who of great explorers as well as mad men
like the infanous Captain Bligh of Mutiny on the Bounty.

Ken
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