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RichardW 70048 172 County 1164 either
County 1164
Another very original tractor at the big day......rumours
are that the video is going to be released very, very soon
so keep your eyes peeled - along with the 2004 calendar
featuring page 3 models pulling the dipstick on a 7700-four,
carressing the exhaust of an 1884 and spread-eagled on the
bonnet of a Super-Six.
Re: County 1164
When I was at The National Ploughing Match, I visited the
Classic-tractors Books & Videos stand, and Stephen Moate
told me he was fairly certain that the new County video
would not be coming out until after Christmas.:-\

As for the 2004 calender, sounds interesting but..... who`s
putting that together?
Re: County 1164
maybe a elementary question, but what is the purpose of
these tractors, extra weight and horsepower for tillage

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By today’s standards they aren’t particularly heavy or
powerful. The thing to remember is that the roots of County
tractor development stretch back to the ‘50s – early ‘60s
when there were no mass market four-wheel drive tractors
available, it was the era of two-wheel drive - Fordson
Farms and implements were getting bigger and industrial
applications demanded a tractor with more power and ‘go
anywhere’ capabilities. County [along with other
manufacturers such as Roadless] worked on meeting this
requirement with the most readily available tractor of the
time. The result was the Four Drive launched in 1954 based
on a E1A Major, later based on the Power Major and in 1961
the Super Major.
It was in late ‘62 when they fitted the first Ford 590E 6
cylinder engine to a County and named it a ‘Super-6’. At
this time there were so few other four-wheel drive tractors
let alone equal-wheeled tractors with almost 100 horse-power
on the market. This success carried through to the early
1980’s with a range of tractors that you can see on this
web-site. By this time tractor manufacturers – including
Ford – started to wise up to this and brought out their own
variations on the theme :-[, with improved turning circle,
less weight and easier on the wallet. This was the end for
County :-(

In terms of design you will find that the average County has
a weight split of about 60% on the front and 40% on the
back, compare that to the average tractor nowadays and it’s
the other way around. Theory behind this [by design and by
accident] was that when the tractor is loaded up on the back
it should have a 50/50 weight split divided to 4 tyres with
an equal foot print size…..Anyone who has ever pointed a
County down over a steep slope will know that this can
sometimes change to 99% front and 1% rear when it sits up
happily on the axle stops. One other design feature is that
the tractor sits low in the chassis making for a low centre
of gravity.
In addition to this each front hub is driven by its own
prop-shaft taking drive from the rear axle half-shafts as
opposed to today’s popular design of a central
prop-shaft/front axle limited slip diff. The big plus with
the County design is that when you engage to diff-lock you
lock all four wheels in to drive.

At the moment it’s a bit of a collector’s thing that’s
caused a revival in all things Big and Blue… the point
that it makes some folks gather in fields close to Dartmoor
every September and worship these beasts – kind of a
Stonehenge on wheels :-D

Hope this makes some sense….anyone got anything to add?
Re: County 1164

Thanks for the reply as you confirmed my thoughts on the
tractor. When I refer to heavy tractors I was thinking of
the days when these tractor were new Here in my neck of the
woods (Missouri, USA) you see one,once in a while , but not

Roy Chapin
Re: County 1164
Hey Richard,

that was a nice explanation about county tractors. I Saw the
picture, and i was wondering some things:
1. did they use this system also on the 1884 tractors?
2. the drive shafts of the front wheel assist. I was
wondering what happens when you steer, because, in theory,
the drive shaft will need to extend and shrink as you turn
the wheel. Am i right about this? as not, I should go back
to lower school again :P
So was there some kind of construction where one axle did
slide into an other? to make it longer and shorter?
I'm sorry for my English...I'm just Dutch you know :P

And do might have some detailed pictures of a 1884? I intend
to build my own on a modified siku ford 8830..
So i could use some pics like this drawing, but of a 1884

thanks in advance.

greetz nielsje
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The driveline on the 1884 is the same principle as the other
models - twin propeller shafts.

To answer your question about the driveline, the driveshafts
telescope inside each other as the machine turns - the same
as the Power take-off drive line between a tractor and

Don't really know where you can find detailed tech. pics of
an 1884, they're a bit of a rarity...........Jim, any ideas?
Re: County 1164
we have a 1254 and a can tell you thats its the most
powerfull tractor we have no other tractor can beat it
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and his little brother
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This drawing shows another view of the County driveline -
as you'd expect to see on a 1884, Nielsje.

thanks to the former Power Farming magazine for the pic.

Some serious power there Wouter :-D
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If your looking for detailed County photos in the
Netherlands, then I think Jan Wiggers will be the guy you
need to contact. If you`ve read Stuart Gibbard`s "Ford
Tractor Conversions" you`ll see Jan`s name in the
acknowledgments in the front of the book. He was at the
Devon event and took a lot of photos, quite a few films I
Sorry but I don`t have a contact for him.
Re: County 1164
Hey richard,

did you receive my email?
I red yours and I did send you one back, but I still haven't
got an answer, so i was wondering...
but if you read this...the answer to your question is:
send me i you could!


greetz nielsje
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